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On November 4, 1969 James
Robert Klimo, from
Muskegon, MI was serving as the Door Gunner
on UH-1H 67-19512 along
with and from WO Terry
L. Alford, aircraft commander; WO1 Jim R. Cavender, pilot; and SP4 John A.
Ware, crew chief. The crew were flying a series of combat support
missions in
in South Vietnam. WO Alford was returning to his base at Nha Trang from Duc Lap at about 1920 hours when he made his last known radio contact with
the 48th Aviation Company Operations at Ninh Hoa. Either the pilot or
aircraft commander gave his approximate location as Duc My Pass, and
stated he was in the clouds and instrument meteorological
conditions
(IMC). Shortly afterwards, the controller at Ninh Hoa heard a radio
transmission that WO1 Alford was in trouble. The pilot reported,
inexplicably, that the helicopter was flying upside down.
The helicopter is not believed to have been shot at. Search efforts
were conducted for six consecutive days, but nothing was found. For the
complete case record and latest MIA search information see
John Ware's page.
From Don Budlong:
I first heard of Jim Klimo sometime in
late 1967 while I was at Ft. Eustis while attending aircraft engine
school with two other former 281st people, Mike Price and
Jodie Joiner. After seeing a photograph of my girlfriend, Mike
commented to me that he had a friend back in Michigan whose wife looked
just like her. He said they looked so much alike that they could pass
for sisters. That friend w as Jim Klimo and if I recall correctly his
wife’s name was Monica.
About two years later Jim Klimo showed
up in the 281st company area as a new door gunner. Mike
Price introduced us and I immediately had to ask to see a photo of his
wife. A strange request under most circumstances but Jim soon
understood why. Sure enough his wife looked like she and my
ex-girlfriend came from the same mold. We joked about it then and later
had many good times at the club.
When Jim’s ship went down in November
1969, I was in Quang Tri and knew nothing about it until my return to
Nha Trang. What a shock! We missed him then and still miss him now.
My wife and I had POW bracelets of Jim and fellow crewmember John Ware
that we wore for many years. I gave the John Ware bracelet to John’s
mother Aileen Ware in Houston. I still wear Jim’s bracelet on special
occasions and have never forgotten him.
Don Budlong

2/68-1/70
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Helicopter UH-1H 67-19512
Information on U.S. Army helicopter UH-1H tail number 67-19512
The Army purchased this helicopter 1168
Total flight hours at this point: 00001042
Date: 11/04/1969 MIA-POW file reference number: 1515
Incident number: 691104251ACD Accident case number: 691104251 Total
loss or fatality Accident
Unit: 281 AHC
The station for this helicopter was Nha Trang in South Vietnam
Number killed in accident = 4 . . Injured = 0 . . Passengers = 0
costing 289354
Original source's and document's from which the incident was created
or updated: Defense Intelligence Agency Reference Notes. Defense
Intelligence Agency Helicopter Loss database. Army Aviation Safety
Center database. Also: 1515 ()
Loss to Inventory
Crew Members:
P CW3 ALFORD TERRY
LANIER BNR
P CW3 CAVENDER JIM RAY
BNR
CE SSG WARE JOHN ALAN BNR
G SFC KLIMO JAMES ROBERT BNR
REFNO Synopsis:
SYNOPSIS: On November 4, 1969, WO Terry L. Alford, aircraft
commander; WO1 Jim R. Cavender, pilot; SP4 John A. Ware, crew chief;
and SP4 James R. Klimo, door gunner; were flying a series of combat
support missions in a UH1H helicopter (serial #67-19512) in South
Vietnam. WO Alford was returning to his base at Nha Trang from Duc
Lap at about 1920 hours when he made his last known radio contact
with the 48th Aviation Company Operations at Ninh Hoa. Either the
pilot or aircraft commander gave his approximate location as Duc My
Pass, and stated he was in the clouds and instrument meteorological
conditions (IMC). Shortly afterwards, the controller at Ninh Hoa
heard a radio transmission that WO1 Alford was in trouble. The pilot
reported, inexplicably, that the helicopter was flying upside down.
The Defense Department has told family members that the helicopter
was on a secondary mission heading toward a buffer zone between
Cambodia and South Vietnam, an area in the Central Highlands the
helicopter was in by mistake. The helicopter is not believed to have
been shot at. Search efforts were conducted for six consecutive
days, but nothing was found. The following narrative is from the
United States Army Case Summary Report: Refno: 1515 Province: Khanh
Hoa District: Khanh Binh Township: Khanh Binh Lat: 123326N Long:
1085304E UTM: BP702890 Narrative: On 4 Novemeber 1969 WO1 Terry
Alford, WO1 Jim Cavender, SP4 John Ware and SP4 James R. Klimo were
crewmembers aboard a UH-1H helicopter flying east from Duc Lap to
Nha Trang in deteriorating weather conditions. After making radio
contact with air traffic controllers at approximately 1920 HRS, a
radio transmission from this aircraft indicated that the aviators
had become disoriented in the clouds and were in an emergency
situation. No further contacts were heard and all SAR operations
conducted were negative. NOTE: The above UTM and Geo Coordinates are
based on the last known US location (last radio transmission).
Witness testimony from subsequent investigations place this incident
loss near Hon Mang Mountain (49P BP797784), within Khanh Hoa
Province. The actual crash site is probably in the vicinity of
BP736768; the location of the landing zone prepared in April 1996.
POST WAR SOURCES: T85-226, 23 July 85, JCRC-LNB: Source provided
hearsay information about a helicopter crash site in the Nha Trang
area (No Further Information) that had reportedly been discovered in
1969. Further, the witness' brother had reportedly recovered four
sets of remains from this site and was holding them near his home in
Nha Trang. AUG 93, JFA 25: Team members investigate this case in
Khanh Hoa Province. No witnesses to this incident could be found,
MRS. NGUYEN THI CUT provided second-hand hearsay information about a
person who allegedly held remains and a dog tag possibly associated
with this case, but MRS. CUT's acquaintance (NFI) who knew the
individual's name was out of the area for several days. 19 May 1994,
letter from Garnett Bell to CILHI (Central Identification Lab,
Hawaii): Author provided hearsay information of a helicopter crash
site near "Chu Knia Mountain" in the vicinity of BP 4779. He also
claimed to possess remains and artifacts from this site and offered
to forward them to CILHI. A photograph of an unidentified POW (#111)
thought to possibly be of SP4 Klimo, was later identified as Charles
Jackson, Captain, USAF by Jackson himself and his cellmate, Thomas
J. Hanton, Captain, USAF. FEB 94, JFA 28: Team members returned to
Khanh Hoa Province and re-interviewed MRS., Cut who introduced MR.
PHAM NGOC CHAU to investigators. MR. CHAU provided hearsay
information regarding the recovery of remains and a dog tag
allegedly taken from the crash site of an "A37". The team also
attempted to interview MR. Y SON, the person MR. CHAU identified as
the one who discovered these artifacts, but MR. SON was unavailable
during the teams' visit. JUN 94, JFA 30: Team members investigated
this case in Dac Lac province. They were successful in locating MR.
Y SON, who stated that in 1985 that he had come across a crash site
but had not removed any artifacts. MR. Son led team members to this
site (BP 702888), but it turned out to be a VNAF 0-1E loss. MR. SON
also identified another witness having knowledge of a different
crash site in the area, MR. MA LUC. MR. LUC led the joint team to a
site at BP 706888, which correlated to a VNAF L-19. Finally, the
tentative last known location (BP 702890) was searched with negative
results. NOV 95, JFA 38: Team attempted to interview MR. Thanh, but
found that he was resttled in the US; with no forwarding address.
NOTE: A source interviewed in July 1985 said that MR. THANH
discovered a helicopter crash site and 4 sets of remains in 1969.
APR 96, JFA 40: Purpose of this investigation was to canvass
residents (5 x total interviewed) of the villages near BP 9085, to
gather information about aircraft losses in the area, and to conduct
a survey of the last known location at BP 702890 of RENFO 1515. NOTE
A survey was already done, see V30 above. The joint team first
traveled to Nihn Hoa Township, Khanh Hoa Province and interviewed on
witness, MR. LE SI DUNG. MR. DUNG knew about a helicopter crash site
near a stream near Hon Mang Mountain (BP 797784) but could not lead
the team there because of his asthma. The VNOSMP team then went to
Ca Hong Hamlet, Khanh Binh Village, Khanh Vinh District, Khanh Hoa
Province and met MR. BO BO CHIA. MR. CHIA agreed to lead workers to
an area near the site to help prepare a landing zone (at 49P BP
736768) for the Joint Team members. According to the VNOSMP, the LZ
is approximately 200M from the crash site. The Joint Team did not
survey the alleged crash site because of time constraints. OTHER
INFO: Based upon witness and advance VNOSMP team statements, team
members determined that there is no crash site at the US last known
location (BP 702890), nor was there as crash site located near the
position of last radio transmission-at 49P BP9085. Team also
attempted to find MR. THANH again, without success. (JFA 38
determined Thanh was in US...) NOTE: A computer database search of a
15km area around Hon Mang Mountain (BP 797784) indicates four UH-1
Operational Losses, one VNAF UH-! loss, the UH-1H associated with
REFNO 1515, and a UH-1H associated with a resolved case. Four
witnesses confirmed that no aircraft crashed near BP9085. NOV 96,
JFA 43: Team members investigated this case in Krong Bong district,
Dak Lak Province (near Chu Knia Mountain in the vicinity of BP4779)
They interviewed three witnesses who provided information on a fixed
wing aircraft crash site near Cu Pui Village, which does not
correlate to this case. NOTE: This investigation was conducted based
on a lead provided by MR. GARNETT BELL on 19 May 1994 (see USG
section above). MAR 98, JFA 49: Joint Team interviewed two witnesses
(MR. LE QUOC TRUNG and MR. BO BO CHIA) concerning a crash site near
Khanh Vinh District. Following the interviews the team surveyed
crash site at BP 7300876343 and found data plates that belong to a
UH-1 helicopter. NOTE: Analysis of material found indicates the
items correlate to an UH-1 aircraft incident, but they are
insufficient to establish a correlation with REFNO 1515. There were
five UH-1 crashes within 15km during the war. FUTURE PURSUIT
INFORMATION Narrative: US RESEARCH (DPMO): Find MR. THANH in US and
interview him. (MR. THANH was mentioned in a July 1985 report. see
USG info above in 1969, he reportedly discovered helicopter
wreckage/remains in Nha Trang area) JOINT INVESTIGATE: Need to go
back to V49 site with metal detector to obtain more wreckage that
will identify specific UH-1 helicopter. CASE MANAGEMENT INFORMATION
ANALYST NOTES: During V49, MR. LE QUOC TRUNG, while at survey site
BP 7300876343, said this is not the site he had visited with his
brother (LE SI DUNG, see V40). He pointed east and indicated the
site he told IE2 about is on the reverse side of the mountain across
the valley, vicinity BP7775. He recalls at this site that he saw
small unidentifiable burnt pieces of wreckage, a pair of torn
leather boots, and a 30X60cm stripped engine block, with holes in a
straight line where the pistons would have been. The site he recalls
is 15X20 sqm and was surrounded by trees. MR. TRUNG agreed to take a
Joint Team to this location. NOTE: Based on general location and
witness describing that he found an in-line piston engine, site may
correlate to an O-2 operational loss 3km south of Hon Mang Mountain,
the general location witness pointed to. MAY BE WORTH CHECKING OUT!
END OF REPORT
Accident Summary:
THE AIRCRAFT LEFT NHA TRANG RVN AT APPROXIMATELY 0645 HOURS 4
NOVEMBER 1969 TO WORK IN THE BAN ME THUOT RVN AREA. THE TIME THAT
THE AIRCRAFT LEFT BAN ME THUOT TO RETURN TO NHA TRANG IS UNKNOWN.
THE PILOT MADE CONTACT WITH BLUE STAR CONTROL AT APPROXIMATELY 1920
HOURS. AT THE TIME CONTACT WAS MADE, THE PILOT SAID HE WAS FLYING IN
IFR WEATHER AND HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE DUC MY PASS.
HE RECEIVED AN F.M. HOMING COUNT FROM BLUE STAR CONTROL AND SAID
THAT HE THOUGHT THAT BLUE STAR CONTROL WAS SOMEWHERE TO THE LEFT
REAR OF HIS AIRCRAFT. BLUE STAR ASKED HIM TO SAY HIS HEADING, AND HE
ANSWERED THAT HE WAS FLYING ON A HEADING OF 210. AT APPROXIMATELY
1930 HOURS, BLUE STAR HEARD OVER THE RADIO, "I'VE GOT IT, I'VE GOT
IT, LET GO OF IT, I'VE GOT IT." BLUE STAR CONTROL TRIED TO CONTACT
THE AIRCRAFT AND HEARD, "WE'RE UPSIDE DOWN, WHAT'S HAPPENING. OH MY
GOD, WHAT DO I DO." BLUE STAR TRIED TO CONTACT THE AIRCRAFT 3 OR 4
MORE TIMES, BUT RECEIVED NO ANSWER.\\
War Story:
The following was written by Pat Ewing, 48 AHC Nihn Hoa, RVN about
the disappearance of Alford Terry Lanier: I was in operations on Nov
4, 1969 when we got a call from an aircraft requesting a FM vector
into our location. Our radio operator (Spanky) gave an affirmative
and began periodically keying the mic. Shortly we hear an aircraft
frantically reporting that they were inverted. We searched for
several days but never found anything. In 1990, while at a VHPA
convention I got my first MIA bracelet picked at random from a box
of 4-500 bracelets. Later, I got my VHPA Directory which included an
After Action Report for 4 Nov 69 which described the incident above.
The aircraft commander of the lost ship was Terry L. Alford, the
name on my bracelet - so after almost 21 years, one of the last 5
people to hear his voice, ends up wearing his MIA bracelet. The
story has gone full circle between myself and someone I never met,
who's gone but not forgotten. Small World. Pat Ewing
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